On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote: > No, I want privacy, and all my right-thinking crew-cut friends are using http://ietf.org, so I still stand out for STASI when I’m usinghttps://ietf.org. The mere fact that you are going to http(s?)://www.ietf.org already flags you for further monitoring, whether you use SSL or not. But I see your point.