Maybe I've misunderstood but if this discussion (which I think is valid to do) is framed for ICANN it is likely to miss or ignore current work stimulated because of perceived blockages in the ICANN hierarchical model. Just saying. C > Patrik Fältström <mailto:paf@xxxxxxxxxx> > 29 October 2013 16:30 > > Just to make my point clear. I absolutely do believe more thinking is > needed. What was done 15 years ago never finished. I claim partly > because we did not know the answers to all questions. > > My only point is that I think it would be sad to restart the > discussion from zero. We both good and bad experience if we look back > in history. We made mistakes then, but we also have successes. I here > talk about URI-related discussions, whois++ (etc), Dublin Core, OID > and what not. > > Same with the 10+(?) years of ID/Loc split discussions. Lots and lots > of experience. > > And of course the experience enterprises like Facebook, Twitter etc > have from their what I would call private namespaces. > > Patrik > > Eliot Lear <mailto:lear@xxxxxxxxx> > 29 October 2013 16:23 > > And having chaired NSRG, + 1/2. That is- it's always fair to look at > new developments, but let's at least be aware of what was covered by > others and build on their success (or avoid their failures). > > Eliot > Jari Arkko <mailto:jari.arkko@xxxxxxxxx> > 29 October 2013 14:38 > For background, when I visited the ICANN meeting last summer, they > were about to launch a set of panels to advice themselves about key > topics in coming years. I promised to join one of them, on identifier > technology innovation (along with a few other IETFers). The topic for > this effort is future evolution of DNS and other identifiers, > including relevant security and management aspects. The viewpoint is > primarily to look at this from ICANN’s angle, but of course the matter > is interesting to us others as well. > > And perhaps we at the IETF should also understand the same things. > Hence this e-mail. > > I have some ideas on what some of these trends might be. But what do > the rest of you think? Where is identifier technology going, and what > new things are on the horizon? What do we need to do with IDNs? > DNSSEC? What will DANE lead to, and how will id-locator split > techniques evolve & be deployed? How will applications or users think > about identifiers in the future? > > More information at http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/10/future-identifiers/ > > Jari >