"Jordi" (if that is indeed your real name) > As Sergeant-at-arms, I agree with other previous postings and believe that > anonymous posting is not tolerable in the IETF mail exploders. Is that IETF policy? As sergeant-at-arms, you should be implementing previously agreed consensus IETF policy, not taking the results of an opinion poll on the hoof. You're entitled to have a personal opinion and belief on this, but you can't then express that opinion as "sergeant-at-arms". It's a personal belief, under a different hat. Therefore, wherever you say "I believe" I read "my personal opinion can be disregarded in and is entirely separate to previous consensus that my role as sergeant-at-arms enforces" By "avoid" you mean "ban" or "censor", no? And that blanket ban on anonymous emails suggested by your last paragraph raises policy concerns. Just picking an example, "sm@xxxxxxxxxxxx" seems quite anonymous to me. I have no idea who that person is. I would therefore request that that person be banned from the IETF list under your terms, except by what you say that address is now banned automatically, along with all other email addresses that person attempts to use? And how does this automatic identification and banning of anonymous mail addresses work, anyway? Lloyd Wood http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/ thinks any discussion of ISOC is entirely appropriate for the IETF main list. Yay, transparency! ________________________________________ From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 21 October 2013 20:45 To: mars.techno.cat@xxxxxxxxx; IETF Secretariat Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Sergeant at arms: please deal with mars.techno.cat@xxxxxxxxx Hi, As Sergeant-at-arms, I agree with other previous postings and believe that anonymous posting is not tolerable in the IETF mail exploders. Moreover, I also believe that this the content of your emails are off-topic to the IETF, even ISOC is the IETF umbrella, ISOC tax declaration and other details is irrelevant to this list as well. This is the reason why I've yesterday, instructed the secretariat to avoid further postings from you. If you decide to identify yourself, as the rest of the posters, and be on-topic, you will be allowed to post again. Meanwhile, refrain to use other anonymous emails, as the secretariat will automatically keep banning you. Regards, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: Techno CAT <mars.techno.cat@xxxxxxxxx> Responder a: <mars.techno.cat@xxxxxxxxx> Fecha: lunes, 21 de octubre de 2013 20:04 Para: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> CC: Jordi Palet Martinez <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <ietf@xxxxxxxx>, <bortzmeyer@xxxxxx>, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@xxxxxxxxx> Asunto: Re: Sergeant at arms: please deal with mars.techno.cat@xxxxxxxxx >"Calling someone a troll is an ad hominem. We aren't supposed to do that >in the IETF. At least, not publicly."[1] > >"It is rude. >It is bullying." [2] > >HARASSMENT by Brian E Carpenter has been noted for the Legal Record > >http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~brian/ >"Network Geeks - How They Built the Internet" > >=========================== > > >HARASSMENT by Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at nic.fr ><mailto:bortzmeyer@DOMAIN.HIDDEN>> has been noted for the Legal Record >http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg83330.html > >=========================== > >http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg83360.html >"judgment needs to be applied by the ombudsperson & the rest of the IETF >management > >[1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg83364.html >[2] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg83362.html > >"you are encouraged to raise your concern in confidence with one of the >Ombudspersons" >http://www.intgovforum.org >http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/541/541650477/541650477_2 >01112_990.pdf > > > > >On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Brian E Carpenter ><brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >Hi Jordi, > >We seem to have a new troll using the address mars.techno.cat@xxxxxxxxx > >Can you deal with it appropriately, please? > >Thanks > > Brian > > > > > > > >-- > >@Techno_CAT_r >http://Twitter.com/Techno_CAT_r > > ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.consulintel.es The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited.