>You kick the problem over to your (trained) ombudsman. I have had some experience with ICANN's trained ombudsman. To put it mildly, he was not part of the solution. While I certainly agree that harassment is bad, in the IETF where nobody is in charge and authority, such as it is, flows from the bottom up, it is surprisingly hard to create definitions that capture the behavior we want to stop, without also enabling endless whining and nitpickery by people with what I might call an outsized sense of entitlement and a lot of free time. This isn't saying to give up, but it is saying to think carefully about the scenarios, particularly ones involving people with no interest in playing fair. R's, John