spt On 10/18/13 10:19 AM, Allison Mankin wrote:
Kathleen, Thanks for the perfect explanation of why it's reasonable to run against the incumbent, even if you want that person to be selected again. Allison (for the Nomcom) On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Moriarty, Kathleen <kathleen.moriarty@xxxxxxx> wrote:It is important for multiple people to run even when there is an incumbent for a fair process. When Stephen Farrell ran for Sec AD again last year, he encouraged me to accept the nomination and run against him so that there was a good candidate to make the process a bit more fair. If either Stephen of Sean won the lottery, the Noncom would at least have gone through the interview and review process with other candidates in advance. The candidate would have worked through the possibility of what this meant with their job and that it was possible for them to take on this role (not insignificant for many of us). For me, I thought Stephen was doing a fine job and am glad he was put back on the IESG, but it is good for the Noncom to have options and backup plans. I received approval from my company, but let my management know that it was unlikely that I would be selected since incumbents usually return. Maybe folks should consider running against an incumbent. You learn the process and it forces you to figure out if you are interested in the role and could allocate that time to the IETF. I gave a positive review of Stephen when running against him. Thanks, Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 6:36 AM To: ietf@xxxxxxxx; Nomcom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Chair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: NOMCOM - Critical shortage of nominees for multiple areas Hi Allison, in your model you don't count those people who have been rejecting to a nomination, just because they believe the current AD did a very good job and he/she should be reelected. So the situation is not that bad, if there is only the current AD on the nominee list. Cheers, Mehmet-----Original Message----- From: ietf-announce-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ext NomCom Chair 2013 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:25 PM To: IETF Announcement List Cc: IETF Discuss Subject: NOMCOM - Critical shortage of nominees for multiple areas [Catchier Subject line - apologies to those offended by a duplicate] A critically low number of people have accepted nominations for some of the IESG open positions. There is only one nominee per slot in APP, OPS and TSV, only two in INT and RAI. Many folks have declined nominations. While the Nomcom appreciates that support for two years of intense service is hard to assure, and while we are aware that there is much support for the incumbents who are standing, the IETF should continually be considering which new talent is available for our leadership, and the Nomcom process needs for there to be some review and deliberation. Therefore, we urgently request that more nominees come forward. DEADLINES Nominations - October 18 Questionnaires from nominees - October 25 Not coincidentally, this is a good time to think over and send your comments about the current statements of desired expertise of positions - this is part of the Nomcom's annual review process as well. Send them to nomcom13@xxxxxxxx. Definitive location [*] of the current statements on desired expertise: https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2013/expertise/ Instructions and details on nomination [**]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ann/nomcom/60602/ Thanks, everyone, Allison for the Nomcom [*] This year the Nomcom tools were recoded, and also transitioned into the datatracker. Apologies for a number of places where we didn't catch reference errors. [**] Yes, alas, the previous call for nominations used "OAM" instead of "OPS," but we have* corrected this (chair's pilot) error where it occurred in the Nomcom pages.
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