Phillip, Thank you very much as well - this is a great reminder of why there need to be some people for backup or pipelined. Allison (for the Nomcom) On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Or look back to a previous Security AD appointment when the incumbent became > unavailable because he was appointed IETF Chair. > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Moriarty, Kathleen > <kathleen.moriarty@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> It is important for multiple people to run even when there is an incumbent >> for a fair process. When Stephen Farrell ran for Sec AD again last year, he >> encouraged me to accept the nomination and run against him so that there was >> a good candidate to make the process a bit more fair. If either Stephen of >> Sean won the lottery, the Noncom would at least have gone through the >> interview and review process with other candidates in advance. The >> candidate would have worked through the possibility of what this meant with >> their job and that it was possible for them to take on this role (not >> insignificant for many of us). For me, I thought Stephen was doing a fine >> job and am glad he was put back on the IESG, but it is good for the Noncom >> to have options and backup plans. I received approval from my company, but >> let my management know that it was unlikely that I would be selected since >> incumbents usually return. >> >> Maybe folks should consider running against an incumbent. You learn the >> process and it forces you to figure out if you are interested in the role >> and could allocate that time to the IETF. I gave a positive review of >> Stephen when running against him. >> >> Thanks, >> Kathleen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >> Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) >> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 6:36 AM >> To: ietf@xxxxxxxx; Nomcom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Chair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: RE: NOMCOM - Critical shortage of nominees for multiple areas >> >> Hi Allison, >> >> in your model you don't count those people who have been rejecting to a >> nomination, just because they believe the current AD did a very good job and >> he/she should be reelected. >> >> So the situation is not that bad, if there is only the current AD on the >> nominee list. >> >> Cheers, >> Mehmet >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: ietf-announce-bounces@xxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ext NomCom Chair >> > 2013 >> > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:25 PM >> > To: IETF Announcement List >> > Cc: IETF Discuss >> > Subject: NOMCOM - Critical shortage of nominees for multiple areas >> > >> > [Catchier Subject line - apologies to those offended by a duplicate] >> > >> > A critically low number of people have accepted nominations for some >> > of the IESG open positions. There is only one nominee per slot in >> > APP, OPS and TSV, only two in INT and RAI. Many folks have declined >> > nominations. >> > >> > While the Nomcom appreciates that support for two years of intense >> > service is hard to assure, and while we are aware that there is much >> > support for the incumbents who are standing, the IETF should >> > continually be considering which new talent is available for our >> > leadership, and the Nomcom process needs for there to be some review and >> > deliberation. >> > >> > Therefore, we urgently request that more nominees come forward. >> > >> > DEADLINES >> > Nominations - October 18 >> > Questionnaires from nominees - October 25 >> > >> > Not coincidentally, this is a good time to think over and send your >> > comments about the current statements of desired expertise of >> > positions - this is part of the Nomcom's annual review process as well. >> > Send them to nomcom13@xxxxxxxx. >> > >> > Definitive location [*] of the current statements on desired expertise: >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2013/expertise/ >> > >> > Instructions and details on nomination [**]: >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ann/nomcom/60602/ >> > >> > Thanks, everyone, >> > >> > Allison for the Nomcom >> > >> > [*] This year the Nomcom tools were recoded, and also transitioned >> > into the datatracker. Apologies for a number of places where we >> > didn't catch reference errors. >> > >> > [**] Yes, alas, the previous call for nominations used "OAM" instead >> > of "OPS," but we have* corrected this (chair's pilot) error where it >> > occurred in the Nomcom pages. > > > > > -- > Website: http://hallambaker.com/