Hiya, On 10/12/2013 01:02 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > The thing is that I (and I suspect much of the IETF) feel that such I* > leadership attendees need to make it _very_ clear at such events that they are > there to present (as best they can) the views of the IETF as a whole, but they > cannot _commit_ the IETF to anything: only the IETF acting as a whole can do > that. So fwiw I was there as Jari's sidekick-de-jour and I can confirm that both Jari and Russ repeatedly made it clear that anything substantive needed IETF community consensus. I realise that's not as good as a recording or set of minutes, but there ya go. Cheers, S.