A minor point inline, rest snipped Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Resnick" <presnick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <dcrocker@xxxxxxxx> Cc: "IETF Discussion" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:48 PM > Finally back to this original review. > > On 10/6/13 7:03 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: <snip> > > >> Note that this portrays rough consensus as an "exception". > > > > I don't understand this first sentence. How is it an exception? Even > > with the following text, I don't see the basis for claiming that it > > might/would be seen as exceptional. > > Maybe I need a different word. I didn't mean "exceptional" in the sense > of "extraordinary" or "atypical". I simply meant it in the "exception > handling" sense: We work toward full agreement, but if there's still > disagreement, we undertake an alternative path. I'm open to suggestions > for text. > > >> Now, a conclusion of having only rough consensus relies heavily on > >> the good judgement of the consensus caller. The group must truly > >> consider and weigh an issue before the objection can be dismissed as > >> being "in the rough". The chair of the working group in one of these > > > > In spite of being appealing to use here, I think that the phrase "in > > the rough" is actually distracting > > As I mentioned earlier, I think it is worth defining as the golf term, > since it is used quite frequently among IETFers nowadays. I just saw this term used by an AD in a DISCUSS for the first time that I can recall, and I have not a clue what he means (yes, I understand golf but do not see the relevance). My guess is that the AD is flying a kite, but would not expect that to be any more widely understood:-( Tom Petch <snip> > > pr > > -- > Pete Resnick<http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/> > Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. - +1 (858)651-4478 > >