On 11/10/2013 07:52, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@xxxxxxxxx> > > > Then we have a big problem as organization, we are then leaderless. > > I'm not sure this is true. The IETF worked quite well (and produced a lot of > good stuff) back in, e.g. the Phill Gross era, when I am pretty sure Phill's > model of his job was indeed as a 'facilitator', not a 'leader' in the sense > you seem to be thinking of. So why do we now need a 'leader'? We have a collective leadership, which is quite a good system as long as it avoids groupthink, and I think the IETF community is talkative enough to reduce (not eliminate) that risk. But when we're invited to wider inter-organisation meetings, we can't all go, and the ones who do go are certain to be viewed as our leaders by the other organisations. Inevitably, it's the Chairs who get invited; up to them to delegate if they want. Brian