Noel Chiappa wrote: > There was actually a proposal a couple of weeks back in the WG to encrypt all > traffic on the inter-xTR stage. Making intermediate systems more intelligent is against the end to end principle and assured to fail. Considering that google, facebook, yahoo, etc., which are end systems that many victims are relying upon, are socially compromised by USG, it can not protect the victims. Worse, considering that services of Microsoft, Apple, etc. are socially compromised by USG, end systems manufactured by Microsoft, Apple, etc. are totally unsafe. As for secure end systems, PCs with open source UNIX are much safer, even though USG can still use a lot of approaches to compromise them. Masataka Ohta