[9] I suggest Expert Review for the new IANA registries, not just First Come First Served, so that someone with a security "clue" can check that the proposed registrations are reasonable. Stephen has filed a related DISCUSS position. He's confused why we need a registry for KDFs or algorithms. He argues that the protocols should already have such a registry. He argues that it would be non-sensical to register a value in this registry but not the protocol registry. In a somewhat related discussion, multiple people have asked what the scope of this document is. Are we defining something for routing protocols? Any security protocol in the world? Something in-between? IU'm going to make two responses: 1) I think FCFS is not harmful for these registries. David's main concern is that bad security will get registered. I'll point out that these registries are not about what security you can use with a routing protocol, but about what security you can configure from a management standpoint. Registering rot13 or similarly questionable security here wouldn't mean I could use it with a routing protocol, only that I could ask a system to do so. If ROT13 was not actually in the security-specific registries for the protocols in question there'd be no way to send a rot13-transformed message. I think people wanting to use bad security in routing protocols will focus on specifying how to use the security for the protocols, and that's the appropriate place to do any gateway review. Yeah, I guess with FCFS it's possible someone could register here and then later realize they cannot get their md4 security approved in the actual protocol registry document. That might be confusing but doesn't seem very harmful. Also, some routing protocols are protected by cleartext passwords sent over the network. We want to be able to manage that, so we will be registering plaintext password in these registries. I don't think anyone will come up with anything worse than that. Finally, I think a lot of us have begun to question the value in security review for codepoint assignment. Some security WGs care a lot; some don't seem to care much at all. 2) Why I prefer FCFS or at least would object strongly to expert review. If we're going to say we want expert review I want us to give expert instructions at least good enough that I believe I could answer the question of what registrations to approve if I were appointed the expert. I don't think we could come to consensus on those instructions very easily. In particular, I think it would be challenging for us to describe what security protocols the protocol registry applies to and which ones it does not. I'm totally fine publishing this document knowing it will be used for routing protocols but not knowing what beyond routing protocols it will be used for. If we do that FCFS makes a lot of sense. So, my recommendation is that we keep our current registration policy.