Re: Community Input Sought on SOWs for RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher

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On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM, John Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>   http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/RPC-Proposed-SoW-2013-final.doc
>>
>>I know that I should not this, but... I am a bit surprised
>>(disappointed) in seeing a proprietary format used here.  I am not
>>saying that you should not use the Office suite to write it, but you
>>could convert it to PDF (better, PDF/A) before publishing it.
>>
>>Anyway, I use Linux, so I guess I will not be able to give my input about it.
>
> Hmmn.  Is there some reason you are unable to install OpenOffice?  It
> opens and displays the SoW including the redline just fine.

OK, I admit I was over-polemicizing (stretching the language a bit..)

To be honest, my experience with opening .doc files with OO is a mixed
bag: often the rendering is good enough, but sometimes, with fancy
documents, funny things happen.

>
> I suppose she could have sent it out in OpenOffice's .odt format which
> is nominally more open, but then the people who use MS Word (I hear
> there are still a few of them) couldn't read it.   There's no great way
> to send around a redlined document and I'd say that Word formats are
> currently the least bad.  I presume you know that the more recent
> .docx file format is ISO/IEC 29500

No I did not know that and I must say that I like it. I can imagine
that is quite complex, but at least it is open.  A doubt remains:
which fundamental features were missing from odt (an ISO/IEC standard
too, as far as I know) to grant for the definition of a new complex
object like a document format?  Anyway, I do not want to start a
discussion about this (which BTW is becoming a bit OT with respect to
the main thread).

>, so that should make everyone
> happy, modulo the detail that it's so complicated that in practice the
> older nominally un-open .doc interoperates a lot more reliably.
>
> R's,
> John



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