Re: making our meetings more worth the time/expense (was: Re: setting a goal for an inclusive IETF)

[Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

There are occasions when presentations are appropriate, but they should be the exception rather than the rule or default assumption.

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On Jul 31, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

IMHO, The presenters are MUST, but the time channel for presenting is the problem or boring factor. I mentioned before that we need short presentations 5 minutes, and more discussions.

 

AB

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Bob Braden wrote:

> On 7/30/2013 9:35 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>>
>> Easy fix: 'slide' (well, nobody uses real slides anymore :-) rationing.
>>
>> E.g. if a presenter has a 10 minute slot, maximum of 3 'slides'
>> (approximately; maybe less). That will force the slides to be 'discussion
>> frameworks', rather than 'detailed overview of the design'.
>>
>>      Noel
>
> Noel,
>
> I tried the 3 slide limit in the End2end Research Group some years ago, and it did not work very well.
> Presenters just can't discipline themselves that much, no matter how hard you beat on them.

Maybe the first step is to stop having "presenters".

Keith