Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials

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On 27/07/13 23:22, Melinda Shore wrote:
On 7/27/13 1:38 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen wrote:
I think it would be really helpful/useful if working groups could
provide short video overviews to help people understand the work.
This includes newcomers and also interested observers, who may
include implementers.  Can that be accommodated, maybe at a future
meeting?  I am happy to help if I can.
I'm sorry, but no, I am not comfortable with this.  If someone
wants to go off on their own and do something along these lines,
more power to them, but we have working group charters, we've
got framework documents, and presumably people can read.

I would be very sorry to see IETF *working* meetings turned into
something closer to conferences, or to dumbing things down to
accommodate newcomers who I gather from discussion so far don't have
anything particular in mind.

I've participated remotely quite a bit and I do think that having
the newcomers session available to remote participants would be a
big win (and there's something that I think it would be helpful
to record on video and make available on Youtube or some such).

It may be the case over the longer term that we've got so many
newer participants who won't adapt to the IETF's working style
that the IETF will need to become more like other standards bodies
to accommodate them, but I don't think we're there yet and I
would be sorry to see working meetings turned into conferences.
People who attend should be participants, not audience.


What do you mean by conference? too much information inferred in your term that may confuse others on the list. Will appreciate, if you can share bit more on it, behind the single term "conference" that you particularly don't like.

I agree with you that changing the working culture in WG meetings can be bad, and we shall not go out of the ways to accommodate anything under the name of "diversity".

Aaron


PS: things evolve, over the long term. it does not matter we like it or not. that is how it is.



Melinda





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