And there is a "Training" section in the meeting materials page. It's empty... but thanks to somebody for putting it there. All we need to do is figure out how to pre-load it. Regards Brian On 27/07/2013 08:33, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 27/07/2013 03:32, John C Klensin wrote: >> Hi. >> >> For a newcomer or someone expecting to write I-Ds, some of the >> most important sessions at the IETF are the various Sunday >> afternoon tutorials and introductions. Many of them are (or >> should be) of as much interest to remote participants as to f2f >> attendees. Until and unless a newcomer's tutorial can be >> prepared that is focused on remote participants, even that >> session should be of interest. >> >> For this particular meeting all of the following seem relevant >> to at least some remote participants: >> >> Newcomers' Orientation >> Tools for Creating I-Ds and RFCs >> IAOC Overview Session >> Multipath TCP >> Applying IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) to Network >> Measurement and Management >> >> So... >> >> (1) The note below strongly implies that none of those sessions >> are being audiocast. Why not and can that be fixed? > > I think that would mean that the crew (partly volunteers) would > need to mobilise 24 hours earlier. Not impossible, I suppose, > but not free of costs either. > >> (2) There is no hint on the agenda or tools agenda about >> availability of presentation and related materials (slides, >> etc.) for those sessions. Do those materials not exist? > > At the moment the various EDU tutorials usually get posted after > the event, and I agree that isn't ideal. > > It would be useful for all these ancillary sessions to be included > in the "meeting materials" page and all agenda tools (official and > volunteer). Again, not impossible, in fact very desirable IMHO, > but not free. > > Brian >> I >> know, but a newcomer or remote participant might not, that I can >> find some tutorials by going to the IETF main page and going to >> "Tutorial" under "Resources", but I have no idea which of those >> links actually reflects what will be presented on Sunday. >> Assuming the presentation materials do exist for at least >> several of the sessions, finding them is much like the situation >> with subscribing to the 87all list. It should no involve a >> treasure hunt at which only very experienced IETF participants >> can be expected to succeed. >> >> Specific suggestions: >> >> (i) Let's get these open Sunday sessions audiocast and/or >> available over Meetecho or WebEx. If that is impossible for >> IETF 87, it should be a priority for IETF 88 and later. >> >> (ii) If there are presentation materials available, links from >> the tools agenda and an announcement to IETF-Announce as to >> where to find them would be desirable. >> >> (iii) If presentation materials are not available, why not? >> And, more important, can this be made a requirement for IETF 88 >> and beyond? >> >> thanks, >> john >> >> >> >> --On Friday, July 26, 2013 12:00 +0200 Nick Kukich >> <nkukich@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> For those interested in monitoring sessions or participating >>> remotely the following information may prove useful. >>> ... >>> All 8 parallel tracks at the IETF 87 meeting will be broadcast >>> starting with the commencement of working group sessions on >>> Monday, July 29, 2013 at 0900 CEST (UTC+2) and continue until >>> the close of sessions on Friday, August 2nd. >>> ... >> >