--On Saturday, July 20, 2013 11:36 -0700 Tim Bray <tbray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So if it's going to be used, exactly as specified, whatever > we do, then what value is added by the IETF process? -T See my earlier note, but mostly to aid in getting the documentation right. For example, to the extent that the recent discussion results in a more complete treatment of privacy and/or security considerations in the documentation, that is a net improvement and added value. john