-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6/19/13 9:36 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: > On 6/19/13 11:31 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 6/19/13 9:26 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: >>> On 6/19/13 11:08 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> My point, poorly expressed though it was, is that it's not >>>> productive for us all to wait from word on high before taking >>>> positive action. Members of the IESG, IAB, IOAC, or any other >>>> "official" body are just folks who are temporarily serving >>>> the community in a defined role. If we want to change the >>>> culture of our community with respect to diversity, it's >>>> better for us to work to encourage, nurture, and mentor >>>> particular individuals. >>> >>> To help facilitate the mentoring aspect, there will be a call >>> soon for volunteers to act as mentors for newcomers (starting >>> with IETF 87). Once the web page for the mentoring program with >>> all the information is up, you should be seeing a call for >>> mentors. >>> >>> We hope that this type of program will aid in assisting newer >>> members of the IETF community become more involved and >>> productive in our activities. >> >> That's great! >> >> However, why do we need to wait for a program? Can't we simply be >> human, introduce ourselves to new participants, reach out to >> individual contributors about becoming document shepherds, >> document editors, WG secretaries, WG chairs, BoF chairs, etc.? >> That's what I've been doing, and so far the results have been >> positive. > > I would highly encourage people taking that initiative and > appreciate folks who do that of their own accord. > >> >> I'm not saying that's the only way to make progress, but I see it >> as very much worth the effort. > > Absolutely agree. The goal of this experimental mentoring program > is to provide people who may not be sure *how* to be mentors a > framework to work within. That sounds quite helpful! I'm not completely sure how to be a mentor, either, I'm just doing the best I can given what I know so far... Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRwdVKAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pHYsP/32PjmK7t+mUphABDzRMV7Nt WJAwkax0mKf+L84k3L3RJF4WdLRNYJJa+IH8IXsw/3BI3zZy4Ez78/gx8Z26vPdv Vk5Z/qy+mTG8MCOSblbZKxOodFFdnV3JOFPUqQlp/RnE86uXQg5N5d0ZECRRxtb9 62wZm+uHIxVkouCkIXTYo+IZgm3ag428UnWtTU032GIRorbzSkYtQgNv/HGJ9STt 2w1iIfkFU4ZgO42ik2nJpAzLVh7ExzhtHgK30faPoDdRAzse4OYSGeilv1lrOx0x HcNoU3cQCIawBCY3FvK5QFNAiJTrvLtWIgn/4wJG/oa4vZJE6xHbKkp1AfowjDDs 6ExKdpH8DwudzBgtY9D9lNyqpeLXjmHCpHWBe6Ngzor89JUtnrdlJFn8XNb+bwJt Ba5xuOPn+bjD7dmMyHjda0kjFN489bqQ6d+VfNLGsaXfd2Be8c1MIv6KiWZjgTrp rR+4b3i4qHff33yI158zV+FnjHlgzHUVoCskQ+EMboG6GMHqe0RRd08cyKNU5gvY CJEvtyvg7mmQG2FI0YJlyT1uxNWBTK6P+ziSrcdySevnVNAliVQtohaHaFa6oZZA nx1mCbZUE9TGKl1iIBfK4pz88Q16Ygk5Z7JB4zFKgKEk3J41pxAT5C3ekK5cap7V mPnBDKexXTU9/+Um+kwL =uq52 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----