On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Måns Nilsson <mansaxel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So, if wg discussion has been ordered mute by the wg chairs because > some wg participants believe the group-think consensus is good enough, > can those objections again be raised in IETF LC or are they set in stone? You can always challenge the WG chair's finding, but you don't need to hassle the whole IETF to do that—just talk to the responsible AD for the working group, or to the IESG as a whole if the responsible AD fails you. That's what the appeals process is supposed to be for. You can of course raise the point on the IETF mailing list, and that is likely to result in the responsible AD considering the question of whether the WG chairs made the right call—I certainly would do so if someone raised such a point on a document for which I was responsible AD. But if the responsible AD decides that the chair made the right call, the objection you raise in IETF last call doesn't count against the working group consensus.