John, On 05/30/2013 08:04 AM, John C Klensin wrote: > irrelevant. If there is a major vendor design presence in a > region, then we should be very concerned if we don't have > significant presence from that region in the IETF as well. But, > if the vendor presence is limited to marketing, sales, and > perhaps implementation, then, if that is a problem, it is one > that doesn't lie easily within IETF scope... and probably > shouldn't. Do open source developers count? -- With Android and the like, they end up producing more deployed implementations than anyone else. And they generally also keep the spirit of "open" more than anyone else. Thanks, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492