On 04/05/2013 09:22, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > GEN-ART is a good example, but actual document editing is much more work > and arguably, less rewarding than a review. So I think this can only > succeed with professional (=paid) editors. I think I disagree, if we can find the knack of effective crowd-sourcing. We do after all have several hundred native English speakers active in the IETF, which would mean each one would have to volunteer for less than one draft per year and we'd be done. I don't know how much experience you have with professional editors. Apart from the RFC Editor crew, my experience has been "mixed". Somebody a year or three ago (the last time we had this exact same discussion) pointed out the differences between copy-editors and technical editors. One difference is that the latter are much more expensive. Copy-editors tend to be rule-driven; technical editors are supposed to understand the material. Brian