On May 3, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Scott Kitterman <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Friday, May 03, 2013 12:04:53 PM Douglas Otis wrote: > ... >> Over many years at attempting to change the course of the SPF process, this >> effort appears to have been futile. > ... > > It does seem a bit odd for you to claim you're being ignored when the largest > change in SPF processing limits contained in 4408bis was your suggestion. An > alternate interpretation to consider is that the working group fully > considered your inputs and incorporated those that were appropriate > technically and in scope for the charter. Dear Scott, This was not directly part of the IETF process, as my input there was ignored. As I recall, removal of unlimited recursion occurred after a presentation made in Boston to the Open Group. As with unlimited recursion, the need for the macro functions are also negligible while posing real risks. This is a serious security concern still needing to be addressed. Regards, Douglas Otis