No name in the AD list appear so far, but if your the discuss-list is right then it may be good progress, hoping for more names for diversity. Your input not helping discussion, AB On 4/19/13, l.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx <l.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Female ADs include Allison Mankin, whose bio recently appeared on this list > in relation to her new appointment. > > There's now a diversity discussion list, where this discussion should move > to. > > http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/04/diversity/ > > Does what you think matter, when you clearly don't know anything? > > Lloyd Wood > http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/ > > > ________________________________________ > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Abdussalam > Baryun [abdussalambaryun@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: 19 April 2013 10:37 > To: ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: ietf > Subject: Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration? > > Andrew > >>Because some people report that they experience a chilly environment, > and we respect those people for their other contributions and would > like more people like them to contribute in similar ways, and > therefore we want to make the environment less chilly. I'm sort of > surprised that that problem, which has been stated in my view quite > plainly more than once in this thread, isn't evident to anyone > participating. > > The environment may not be chilly, but may be unaware of experience > (did we experience a woman as AD?). The IETF culture can be defined > IMO as a argumental experience (firstly) plus technical (secondly), > mostly men argue for long (may get unsensitive) but women may not > fancy that. The participants' bias is not in technical experience it > is in argumental, which is not true that all discussions on the IETF > lists are technical, most of the time just men arguing and when they > get lost in technical they get backed up with the consensus procedural > argument. > > I don't think women were given a chance to proof their ability to > lead the IETF, so men can be aware of new experience. > > AB