On 18/03/2013 18:14, SM wrote: > At 06:44 18-03-2013, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: >> - I support a newcomers' list. However, I do believe that the definition >> of newcomer must be relaxed a bit. A newcomer is not a 'first time >> attendee'. Being a IETF youngster I would say that for the first three >> meetings you are a newcomer. This may vary, but if I had to draw a line >> somewhere, three would be my choice. > > I suggest calling the mailing list hallway@xxxxxxxx or else use > edu-team@xxxxxxxx. I don't see any reason why "new" has to be defined. In my experience, this list is the hallway. edu-team is for logistical discussions of the EDU team, so I don't think you mean that. edu-discuss is open to anyone for general discussion of IETF internal education issues, which is a different topic. I don't see what's wrong with the word "newcomer"; it isn't pejorative, and if the list is open to anyone, people can decide for themselves when they cease to be new. Personally, I'm still learning about the IETF. Brian