Re: IPR view (Re: Internet Draft Final Submission Cut-Off Today )

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I do but don't care. With my IETF hat on, the whole point of the cut-off is to enforce a physical barrier to ensure we do not ever hear, "I posted this draft yesterday, let's talk about it" in a work group. With my legal services hat on, with the US joining the rest of the world with first-to-file, those few weeks of publication could mean the difference between a free and open standard and a NPE swooping in and attempting to tax the industry.

On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:56 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> 
> On 03/07/2013 09:34 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> Oh, and one more data point:
>> 
>> The Internet-Draft archive also functions as a timestamped signed public archival record of our "inventions".
>> (Which are often trivial, but triviality won't stop patenting of copycats, while a good priority more likely will.)
> 
> FWIW, I think that's an incidental good side-effect but shouldn't
> drive what we do here.
> 
> My take is that I don't care about this, so long as drafts that
> are discussed at meetings are posted early enough to allow folks
> a chance to read them. The current rule achieves that well enough,
> as could a less coarse-grained rule. I've not seen a worked out
> proposal for such a less coarse-grained rule that achieves that
> yet.
> 
> S
> 
>> This function is effectively suspended for six weeks a year.
>> 
>> Grüße, Carsten
>> 
>> PS.: (If that sounds like I'm contradicting myself that's only because we haven't found the right solution yet.)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 27, 2013, at 19:49, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2013, at 19:18, ned+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> 
>>>> routing around obstacles
>>> 
>>> It turns out for most people the easiest route around is submitting in time.
>>> 
>>> That is actually what counts here: how does the rule influence the behavior of people.
>>> 
>>> Chair hat: WORKSFORME.  (And, if I could decide it, WONTFIX.)
>>> 
>>> Grüße, Carsten
>> 
>> 




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