>>>>> "Ted" == Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> writes: Ted> I agree that the current language permits the current Ted> operational model, because it leaves it up to the NomCom to Ted> determine how to derive IETF community consensus; it can Ted> believe the IESG is right, Ted, up to here we're in agreement. Ted> as it does now. I haven't seen evidence of this (nor evidence against; I have no idea what the nomcom thinks.) I realize you may have seen more information than is public. I also agree with dave C that this issue is strategic. I believe that having this be clear would be valuable.