Thanks, Mary. -----Original Message----- From: Mary Barnes [mailto:mary.ietf.barnes@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:40 AM To: Eric Gray Cc: John C Klensin; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD Importance: High Eric, You are describing the process of IAB selection as opposed to IESG selection for ensuring there is someone that is a potential chair. The IAB voting members select the IAB chair. The IESG members do not select the IETF chair. Regards, Mary. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Eric Gray <eric.gray@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > John, > > I considered this before making my reply, especially in light > of a number of recent events with which I am intimately familiar. > > To become the Chair of the IESG involves a second level of > selection that is much more political. You have to be selected - I believe - for the role by your peers on the IESG. > This then is a matter for the IESG, more than the NomCom, or the IETF as a whole. > > This is - I feel sure - one of the things that a NomCom has to > consider in picking folks for IESG membership: there needs to be at > least one AD on the IESG that is both willing and able to take on this role. > > But - let's face it - this should be obvious to any reasonably > competent NomCom that is having to replace an outgoing Chair. > > But it is most definitely NOT something that every AD has to be prepared to do... > > -- > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: John C Klensin [mailto:john-ietf@xxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:22 AM > To: Eric Gray > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD > Importance: High > > > > --On Wednesday, March 06, 2013 14:16 +0000 Eric Gray <eric.gray@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>... >> So far, it has not been any part of the normal duties of an >>IESG member or AD to hold press conferences, glad-handing with the >>masses, baby kissing, etc. >>... > > I can't speak to baby kissing but the above statement is true only if you exclude the IETF Chair from "IESG member or AD". > Perhaps we could change it if we really wanted to, but we should face the fact --and I hope that Nomcoms understand-- that the IETF Chair role has expanded to include a great deal of public representation of the IETF and, indeed, public politics. > > john > > > >