Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD

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Eric,

You are describing the process of IAB selection as opposed to IESG
selection for ensuring there is someone that is a potential chair.
The IAB voting members select the IAB chair.  The IESG members  do not
select the IETF chair.

Regards,
Mary.

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Eric Gray <eric.gray@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> John,
>
>         I considered this before making my reply, especially in light of a number of recent
> events with which I am intimately familiar.
>
>         To become the Chair of the IESG involves a second level of selection that is much
> more political.  You have to be selected - I believe - for the role by your peers on the IESG.
> This then is a matter for the IESG, more than the NomCom, or the IETF as a whole.
>
>         This is - I feel sure - one of the things that a NomCom has to consider in picking folks
> for IESG membership: there needs to be at least one AD on the IESG that is both willing and
> able to take on this role.
>
>         But - let's face it - this should be obvious to any reasonably competent NomCom that
> is having to replace an outgoing Chair.
>
>         But it is most definitely NOT something that every AD has to be prepared to do...
>
> --
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John C Klensin [mailto:john-ietf@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:22 AM
> To: Eric Gray
> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> --On Wednesday, March 06, 2013 14:16 +0000 Eric Gray <eric.gray@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>...
>>       So far, it has not been any part of the normal duties of an  IESG
>>member or AD to hold press conferences, glad-handing with  the masses,
>>baby kissing, etc.
>>...
>
> I can't speak to baby kissing but the above statement is true only if you exclude the IETF Chair from "IESG member or AD".
> Perhaps we could change it if we really wanted to, but we should face the fact --and I hope that Nomcoms understand-- that the IETF Chair role has expanded to include a great deal of public representation of the IETF and, indeed, public politics.
>
>     john
>
>
>
>


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