On 27/02/2013, at 9:59 AM, Warren Kumari <warren@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Feb 26, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Roberto Peon <grmocg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I'm not sure that the deadline serves any positive purpose so long as we keep all of the versions anyway. >> It certainly is annoying the way it is now and is disruptive to the development process rather than helpful for it. > > Um, maybe. > > Another way to look at it is that a deadline, any deadline, helps stop folk procrastinating and actually *submit*. > > Have a look at the number of submissions just before the cutoffs… I think that's a poor trade-off. As discussed before, the publishing embargo disrupts work that isn't in sync with meetings. This is a tangible and somewhat high price to pay just to serve as a procrastination-buster for those that need it. I'd be willing to deal with an embargo for draft-ietf-*, but don't see at all why it extends to other drafts. Regards, >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 2/26/13 1:45 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote: >>> On the one hand, having a cut-off time could help WG chairs make a decision >>> as to whether to entertain a discussion on a draft. On the other hand, >>> having no cut-off date might mean that drafts are submitted extremely late >>> and it makes it more challenging or impossible to prepare an agenda. >> >> Well, for one thing the IETF does its work on mailing lists, and >> meetings support that rather than the other way 'round. For another, >> I'm not sure this deadline makes any difference in practice (other >> than introducing an inconvenience). We're going to be giving meeting >> time to a draft for which there's no revision, because it needs >> meeting time. It's on the agenda whether there's a revision or >> not. I understand the deadline was introduced to provide incentives >> for people to get their stuff in in advance of a meeting. But. >> >> Melinda >> >> > > -- > I had no shoes and wept. Then I met a man who had no feet. So I said, "Hey man, got any shoes you're not using?" > > -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/