On Monday, February 11, 2013 11:01:14 AM Dave Crocker wrote: > >> And on this note, doing something wrong and being corrected is always > >> a better choice than not doing something. > > > > Agreed. > > Well... > > That claimed benefit is probably true, from a global perspective, but > often not true from a local (personal) perspective. > > Most of us do local optimization, seeking to avoid criticism. Let's not > be distracted by the example of the few, cantankerous ones of us who > appear to be impervious to attack. > > What changes this counter-productive pressure to keep quiet is making > the tone of things be supportive and constructive rather than frankly > hostile. > > Does anyone seriously think the typical IETF exchange displays this > more-positive tone? I guess it all depends on what you're used to. IETF discussions seem reasonably temperate to me. Scott K