> IETF participants are unwilling or unable to > consider 3933 experiments. My second reaction was: what if draft-farrell-ft > was an IESG statement? Would the same outcome be reached? When Stephen proposed his draft to the IESG, I counter-proposed an IESG Statement that would essentially say that because implementation experience is important, the IESG will consider it in its evaluation. More text around that, but that's the short version. The IESG did not consider that approach at the time, preferring to proceed with the 3933-experiment proposal. Barry (App AD)