Hi all, seeing all these discussions related to process improvements I just noticed one annoying thing related to working group conference calls. It turns out that the IESG guidelines on that topic (see http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/interim-meetings.html) say the following: " * Conference calls and jabber sessions must be announced at least two weeks prior to the call or session, and the agenda must be published at least one week before call or session * Announcement text must be sent to iesg-secretary@xxxxxxxx " Having just scheduled conference calls for the OAuth mailing list I announced them on the OAuth WG mailing list (where I naively thought it belongs and forgot to re-read the IESG guidelines again). Why do we need to announce conference calls (or Jabber chats) on the IETF announce mailing list? How likely is it that someone cares about a working group effort, does not subscribe to the WG mailing list, has not seen a poll about the date and time, and wants to participate in the conference call? To me - this seems rather unlikely. Could we please change that? Ciao Hannes