> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Keith Moore A different toolset, (e.g. pens and paper > and overhead cameras coupled to projectors), would likely produce better > results if that toolset did not encourage laziness in preparing > materials to facilitate discussion. [WEG] I don't know about anyone else here, but you do *not* want me to attempt to facilitate a discussion using freehand drawings and writing. My handwriting and drawing skill was bad before I discovered a keyboard, and years of atrophy have made its usefulness approach zero as a meaningful method of communication. You'd be better off with the aforementioned stone tablets and cuneiform in terms of understanding. http://theoatmeal.com/blog/handwriting And I echo what Dave said - quit blaming the tools and assuming that forcing people to use tools they're not used to using will fix this. You have a very specific opinion of what an effective WG session should be like and what people should and should not be doing to facilitate such. Sounds like you need to work with the EDU team to give a Sunday afternoon training session entitled "how not to turn a WG session into a broadcast-only medium" possibly with a section for WG chairs and a section for potential speakers. Wes George This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout.