--On Sunday, December 02, 2012 09:53 -0500 Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > (Another way to put is that even if we provide such cameras in > meetings along with colored pens and paper, we will continue > to see PowerPoint being used as it is today unless there's a > community-wide effort to change our entrenched habits.) Sure. But it is the now-entrenched habits that are the problem. The overuse of PowerPoint for purposes of which neither of us approve is merely a symptom, not, IMO, a cause (even if it reinforces the behaviors). Anyone for incorporating a slide (!) into the Newcomer's Presentation (!!) that says "a presentation in a f2f meeting that makes extensive use of PowerPoint decks with many and/or dense slides brands the presenter as either a newcomer, someone who is trying to avoid an actual discussion, or a fool"? :-( john