--On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 16:11 -0500 Scott Brim <swb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 11/28/12 15:53, John C Klensin allegedly wrote: >> Let me be clear. For most WGs and purposes, most of the time, >> the "minutes" are the minutes and I'm certainly not going to >> be the one who makes a big fuss about clarity or literacy >> unless they are so incomplete and incompetent that posting >> them becomes a joke. _However_ if a WG wants to make/be an >> exception to the principle that consensus has to be >> demonstrated on the mailing list and instead wants to rely on >> face to face discussions, than that WG is, IMO, obligated to >> have minutes complete and comprehensible enough that someone >> who did not participate in the meeting, even remotely, can >... > ... and in those cases it is very important that the "minutes" > (although I would avoid that as a pre-loaded term) cover as > much of the arguments as possible. A reader on the mailing > list will be utterly shortchanged if all he/she gets are > conclusions and action points. In the past, individual WGs > have argued about whether to include actual names in the > meeting notes. Personally I'm in favor but even without them, > at least the issues and pros and cons of a significant > decision must be documented in detail. Yes, exactly. john