On 11/6 the IETF Chair proposed the following wording: - If you are aware that a contribution of yours (something you write, say, or discuss in any IETF context) is covered by patents or patent applications, you need to disclose that fact. I'm surprised that a standards organization would use the phrase "need to" instead of one of the REQUIRED words typically used in standards. (See http://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp14) So how about: - If you are aware that a contribution of yours (something you write, say, or discuss in any IETF context) is covered by patents or patent applications, you MUST disclose that fact. Meanwhile, I am enjoying the discussion about the expected timeliness of such REQUIRED disclosures. This is indeed a difficult issue with tradeoffs for IP owners and those who implement IETF standards. In particular, I want to see how IETF balances Stephan Wenger's accurate statement that "[r]estricting the freedom of business [by requiring early disclosures] is usually not a useful thing for a business [that owns IP]" with the corollary that "late disclosures may restrict the freedom of business of every other business." But perhaps, as Stephen also suggests, that hasn't proven to be a real, measurable problem (yet) at IETF? /Larry Lawrence Rosen Rosenlaw & Einschlag, a technology law firm (www.rosenlaw.com) 3001 King Ranch Rd., Ukiah, CA 95482 Office: 707-485-1242 -----Original Message----- From: IETF Chair [mailto:chair@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 7:01 AM To: IETF Announce Cc: IETF Subject: IESG Considering a Revision to NOTE WELL The IESG is considering a revision to the NOTE WELL text. Please review and comment. Russ === Proposed Revised NOTE WELL Text === Note Well This summary is only meant to point you in the right direction, and doesn't have all the nuances. The IETF's IPR Policy is set forth in BCP 79; please read it carefully. The brief summary: - By participating with the IETF, you agree to follow IETF processes. - If you are aware that a contribution of yours (something you write, say, or discuss in any IETF context) is covered by patents or patent applications, you need to disclose that fact. - You understand that meetings might be recorded, broadcast, and publicly archived. For further information: Talk to a chair, ask an Area Director, or review BCP 9 (on the Internet Standards Process), BCP 25 (on the Working Group processes), BCP 78 (on the IETF Trust), and BCP 79 (on Intellectual Property Rights in the IETF).