On 06/11/2012 17:43, Russ Housley wrote: > Brian: > > Jorge has reviewed this text. He says that the current text and this proposed text are both summaries. Both say that it is important to read the BCP to get all of the details. OK, good. On reflection my feeling is that we definitely need the introductory paragraph stressing the disclosure requirement, but I remain bothered by taking out all the details. I understand there is a problem of attention span, but there are not really all that many words in the current version. Brian > Russ > > > On Nov 6, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >> I don't much like the change in approach. I think it will be too easy >> to brush off; the current approach has enough substance that people >> who brush it off put themselves in a very weak position. >> >> The old text was written with legal advice. What does counsel say >> about the new proposal? >> >> Regards >> Brian Carpenter >> Cell phone during IETF85: +1 847 219 0880 >> >> On 06/11/2012 15:00, IETF Chair wrote: >>> The IESG is considering a revision to the NOTE WELL text. Please review and comment. >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> >>> >>> === Proposed Revised NOTE WELL Text === >>> >>> Note Well >>> >>> This summary is only meant to point you in the right direction, and >>> doesn't have all the nuances. The IETF's IPR Policy is set forth in >>> BCP 79; please read it carefully. >>> >>> The brief summary: >>> - By participating with the IETF, you agree to follow IETF processes. >>> - If you are aware that a contribution of yours (something you write, >>> say, or discuss in any IETF context) is covered by patents or patent >>> applications, you need to disclose that fact. >>> - You understand that meetings might be recorded, broadcast, and >>> publicly archived. >>> >>> For further information: Talk to a chair, ask an Area Director, or >>> review BCP 9 (on the Internet Standards Process), BCP 25 (on the >>> Working Group processes), BCP 78 (on the IETF Trust), and BCP 79 (on >>> Intellectual Property Rights in the IETF). > >