> Only majordomo2, which has been unmaintained for a while now (and >it's author calls it "Dead" holds much of a chance, but I doubt it ?would work for the IETF in its current condition. Actually, MJ2 works great, I've been using it in production for years, but I agree that we'd need to locate a perl weenie willing to make tweaks, and it's probably not enough better than MM to be worth the pain of switching. > Sadly this isn't possible with mailman; you will always be mailed > your password if you need it and can't remember it. If you use a high value password for your IETF list subscriptions, you have deeper security issues than a few tweaks to mail software can fix. R's, John PS: I saw a description of mailman2 by one of the developers last week. It's really not that different, although he mentioned that the monthly reminders are now off by default.