At 11:02 AM 10/26/2012, Eliot Lear wrote: >On 10/26/12 4:29 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: >> I'm using "expulsion" here the way its used in the US political system - a legislative body may choose to expel one of its members for various reasons. I propose that we define such a mechanism for the IETF bodies. >> > >Why should bodies have this right? I'm not saying they should - but that seems to be what Bob et al are asking for. Doing it this way means you don't have to reach to questions of what constitutes an "absence" or "abandonment" - subjective judgements. If someone pisses his fellow members off sufficiently that they can't work with him/her for whatever reason you have this. And it's still subject to veto by the confirming body, so the expulsion reasons will have to be pretty egregious to get through two votes of 2/3. Mike >Eliot