>> Not that I object to the creation of such a construct - far from it >> .. >> So it's not a replacement for a Hall of Fame, which people might read, >> or scan through, in its entirety. > From: Scott Brim <swb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > you're assuming that being remembered on an IETF wiki should be an > exclusive award. > From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@xxxxxxx> > Would you consider a war memorial a "phone book"? ... Just make it a > list, with the most recently passed at the top of the list. You both seem to have completely missed the point of my message, so let me re-state it more explicitly. When I said "Not that I object to the creation of such a construct" (i.e. Scott's suggested memorial wiki), I assumed that that made it perfectly clear that I _wasn't_ against the concept of some sort of encompassing listing/memorial. So when I went on to say "it's not a replacement for a Hall of Fame", I assumed that people would understand (given the above point) that I was positing that i) such a HoF would _necessarily_ be a separate construct from a memorial, and ii) that I saw the use/need for such a separate HoF. I.e. (to be even more redundantly explicit) one could in theory have either the memorial, the HoF, or both, or neither. I make (and made) no statement about the memorial - as I said, 'I don't object to such a construct'. More explicitly, if people want to do that, that's fine with me. If they don't, that's fine with me too. But I still feel a mild level of need for a IETF HoF to recognize, and keep prominent (for new members) the memory of past IETFers whose contributions are worthy of recognition, but who probably don't rise to the level needed for more major honours (e.g. the ISOC Internet Hall of Fame). Several have been named in this discussion. Noel