Noel, in all of this you're assuming that being remembered on an IETF wiki should be an exclusive award. On 10/22/12 13:14, Noel Chiappa allegedly wrote: > > From: Scott Brim <swb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > If this memorial wiki page could be open to anyone who ever contributed > > to any I* and for whom there was at least one person who wanted to > > contribute the information, then fine. > > Then it turns into (effectively) a phone book - and I don't know too many > people who read phone books. > > Not that I object to the creation of such a construct - far from it, I expect > that historians in decades to come would probably find it valuable and > interesting. I'm not sure too many others, would, though (at least, in its > entirety - for individual people they already know, they might find it good). > > So it's not a replacement for a Hall of Fame, which people might read, or scan > through, in its entirety. (Steve Coya, for instance, I would like to see > memorialized in an IETF HoF. He did a great deal for us, but people who joined > recently will have no idea who he was.) > > > If not, then it would be yet another situation where there will be a > > line between the in-crowd and the out-crowd. > > Every award ever devised is, implicitly, a line between the 'betters' and the > 'lessers'. So you're saying we should get rid of them all - the Nobels, the > EU's Sakharov Prize (for which I have a soft spot because the first one went > to one of my great heroes, Anatoly Marchenko), etc, etc? > > (And no, I'm not ignoring the difficulties in picking honorees, in any > system. Maybe that difficulty makes it too much trouble to have an IETF HoF. > But that's a different point entirely from the ethical wholesomeness of having > honorees at all.) > > Noel >