Re: FW: Last Call: <draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd-00.txt> (Document Shepherding Throughout a Document's Lifecycle) to Informational RFC

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Good questions all.

IMHO, Independent Stream at most. Or a simple blog post would do. :)

On 9/25/12 1:13 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
> Hi, I don't understand the process for this document.
> 
> I read Russ's  words, but I don't glean the meaning :-(
> 
> This document is in IETF last call for publication in the IETF
> stream. Yet any comments received will not necessarily be taken on
> board and the document will not be published as having IETF
> consensus. Why does that feel like Independent Stream to me? And
> why is an RFC needed simply to record the thoughts of one person?
> 
> Is the purpose of the Last Call simply to help the IESG make its
> decision?
> 
> Thanks, Adrian (Who has yet to read the document, but feels that he
> cannot make any useful comments since the content is the opinion of
> one person and he has no idea whether the document correctly
> reflects the opinion of that person.)
> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: ietf-announce-bounces@xxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ietf-announce- bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The IESG 
>> Sent: 25 September 2012 15:41 To: IETF-Announce Subject: Last
>> Call: <draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd-00.txt> (Document 
>> Shepherding Throughout a Document's Lifecycle) to Informational
>> RFC
>> 
>> 
>> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to
>> consider the following document: - 'Document Shepherding
>> Throughout a Document's Lifecycle' 
>> <draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd-00.txt> as Informational RFC
>> 
>> The author is documenting his own opinion, and he is presenting
>> that opinion to the community for consideration.  The author is
>> not proposing any formal change, but he is interested in
>> community comments.  Since this is the authors opinions, changes
>> to the document based on received comments be at the author's
>> discretion.  As a result, the finished document will not claim to
>> reflect IETF community consensus.
>> 
>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and
>> solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive
>> comments to the ietf@xxxxxxxx mailing lists by 2012-10-23.
>> Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@xxxxxxxx instead. In
>> either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to
>> allow automated sorting.
>> 
>> Abstract
>> 
>> RFC 4858 talks about "Document Shepherding from Working Group
>> Last Call to Publication".  There's a significant part of a
>> document's life that happens before working group last call,
>> starting, really, at the time a working group begins discussing a
>> version of the idea that's been posted as an individual draft.
>> It seems reasonable and helpful to begin shepherding when there's
>> a call for adoption as a working group document, and this
>> document gives one Area Director's view of how that extended
>> shepherding function might work, and what tasks might be involved
>> throughout the document's lifecycle.
>> 
>> 
>> The file can be obtained via 
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd/
>>
>>
>> 
IESG discussion can be tracked via
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd/ballot/
>>
>>
>> 
No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.

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