--On Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:52 -0400 Barry Leiba <barryleiba@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I think 5322upd-from-group needs to apply to both >> backward-pointing address types to be effective for what >> popimap-downgrade needs. > > I will make the change. I'll also remind the EAI group that > there have been a couple of objections to the > 5322upd-from-group spec, which I have to address. I might do > that by scoping it down a bit with some "SHOULD NOT use" sort > of language to address those concerns. Have to review them > and see. My suggestion is to say something like the following: A great deal of Internet email procedures and software assume that the addresses in "From:" and "Sender:" fields can be replied to and are suitable for use in mail organizing and filtering. The use of groups instead of mailboxes may disrupt those uses. Consequently, with this specification legitimizes the use of group syntax, that syntax should be used in those fields only under special circumstances and with caution. In particular, users and MUAs should generally not permit the use of group syntax in those fields in outgoing messages since the syntax will usually provide even less information than a null address ("<>") which is already prohibited by RFC 5321. That could be either in Security Considerations or a separate section. You could even do something radical and incorporate it as a section called "Applicability" and use the words "LIMITED USE" (and, since no one seems to remember, a citation of RFC 2026 Section 3.3). You can probably figure out how to use fewer words, but something like that would address the comments I've seen so far and, IMO, generally strengthen the spec. best, john