really good message michael. shame about the line wrap :) >> Thunderbird is correct by default AFAIK. > Unfortunately not on Mac OS. It's become automatic for me to hit > command-R when replying, but that doesn't solve the basic problem. in the new ietf, everyone will use emacs. the old dogs' macos users list is rife with pleas for apple and tbird mua config magic, with rare screams of shock, pain, and disgust from someone who has to use outschnook for $dayjob mail. i have given up reading the horribly mis-quoted email. i concluded there was a high correlation between not knowing how to use email and other, even more drastic, clue gaps. i just hit delete. there already is too much clueful mail to read. if y'all come up with a constructive plan and i can help, holler. i say scott should teach emacs :) randy