Minneapolis is infinitely more glamorous Frankfurt .. -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:30 PM To: Geoff Mulligan Cc: Dave Crocker; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: So, where to repeat? Frankfurt as the Minneapolis of Europe: central, well-connected, cold, unglamorous. -T On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Geoff Mulligan <geoff@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 08/09/2012 09:17 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: >> >> On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: >> >>> offlist. >> >> Not so much >> >>> Geoff, >>> >>> Frankfurt is a city in Germany. I believe the IETF has never been there. >> >> Two more tidbits: >> - It's a huge aviation hub. There are direct flights from >> everywhere, similar to CDG, Heathrow, or Schiphol >> - Unlike Paris, London and Amsterdam, it's not a great tourist >> attraction, so conceivably it would be cheaper. > > I've found it relatively inexpensive, clean and very easy to get to. >> >> >>> Other than those two tidbits about it, I've no idea what is to be >>> accomplished by someone's randomly throwing out the names of cities >>> for a discussion like this, especially when threads like these >>> always have a great deal of trouble staying focused on the >>> /principle/ rather than haggling the details. >> >> The principle would be to go to aviation hubs so as to minimize the >> collective pain. Most people from the US going to Prague, would have >> a connection in Frankfurt, so a meeting in Frankfurt would reduce the >> amount of flights. > > This is why I threw out a "not so random" city name - Frankfurt. >> >> >> Yoav >> >>> On 8/8/2012 12:24 PM, Geoff Mulligan wrote: >>>> >>>> Frankfurt? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Dave Crocker <dcrocker@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/8/2012 11:46 AM, Geoff Mulligan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So then why not consider, London, Paris (not the Concorde >>>>>> Lafayette), Frankfurt, Amsterdam? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> shockingly, amsterdam can't handle the ietf. wrong mix of resources. >>>>> really. >>>>> >>>>> paris appears to have broad crime and work-ethic patterns that >>>>> also are problematic, not just at the concorde. >>>>> >>>>> to be clear: i'm speaking for myself. >>>>> >>>>> d/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dave Crocker >>>>> Brandenburg InternetWorking >>>>> bbiw.net >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Dave Crocker >>> Brandenburg InternetWorking >>> bbiw.net >>> >>> Scanned by Check Point Total Security Gateway. > >