This appears to be turning into a survey. My views are no doubt colored by it being difficult, expensive, and slow to get anywhere (I live near Fairbanks, AK) so travel doesn't figure very prominently into how I feel about various venues. But even if it did ... I go to IETF meetings to get work done, and it's been easier some places than others. Minneapolis has consistently had outstanding meeting facilities, and I thought the facilities in Vancouver last week were excellent, too (and the network team did an outstanding job - many thanks!). Inexpensive, edible food is a huge plus, and there again, Minneapolis and Vancouver have stood out. But still, the only really serious consideration for me is whether or not the facilities make it easier to get done the things that need to get done. Melinda