On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I have taken a look at this policy. but still not very clear about this > policy. > > could you kindly show some examples for charging the fee? > > I looked at this before the policy was created. Many internet companies do this. Yahoo : http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/yahoo-spy.pdf • Basic subscriber records: approx. $20 for the first ID, $10 per ID thereafter • Basic Group Information (including information about moderators): approx. $20 for a group with a single moderator • Contents of subscriber accounts, including email: approx. $30-$40 per user • Contents of Groups: approx. $40 - $80 per group Verizon : http://www.verizon.net/policies/civil_subpoena.asp Verizon Online charges the following rates for compliance with civil subpoenas and other legal process. For subpoenas and other legal process that require substantial effort by Verizon Online, Verizon Online reserves the right to charge a rate of $75 per hour (plus overtime costs if necessary) and to collect an estimated fee in advance. Except as set forth in the preceding sentence, Verizon Online's subpoena compliance fees and charges are as follows: $40.00 per IP record requested (unless overtime charges apply) $22.00 per Federal Express or actual shipping charges if higher $0.25 cents per copy Sprint http://info.publicintelligence.net/SprintSubpoenaManual.pdf Lots of different fees. Minimum $50.00 administrative processing fee for Civil requests. AT&T https://contact.bellsouth.com/subpoena/ Fees for Subpoena Processing: AT&T charges a fee for the processing of civil subpoenas. I do not think that the fees suggested here are at all out of line with either the actual burden or with what other organizations do. Regards Marshall > > Jiankang Yao > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "IETF Administrative Director" > <iad@xxxxxxxx> > To: "IETF Announcement List" <ietf-announce@xxxxxxxx> > Cc: <iaoc@xxxxxxxx>; <iab@xxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx>; <wgchairs@xxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 9:07 PM > Subject: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy > > > > The IAOC is seeking community feedback on a proposed policy by the IAOC to > impose > fees to produce information and authenticate documents in response to > subpoenas and > other legal requests. > > The IETF receives requests for information, documentation, authentication or > other > matters through subpoenas and less formal means that require manpower and > materials > to be expended. These requests are on the rise. During the period 2005 to > 2010 the IETF > responded to nine subpoenas. Since 2011 the IETF has received five > subpoenas and three > other legal requests for authenticated documents. > > Each such request is time sensitive and involves the IETF Counsel, the IAD, > and members > of the IAOC, who together form the Legal Management Committee, to rapidly > analyze and > identify the means for satisfying the request. Often there is a need to > retain outside counsel, > especially in cases that might lead to depositions or court testimony. > > The IAOC believes a Schedule of Fees is an appropriate and reasonable means > to recover > costs associated with such efforts. > > The draft policy entitled Draft Fee Policy for Legal Requests can be found > at: <http://iaoc.ietf.org/policyandprocedures.html> > > Before adopting a policy the IAOC would like feedback on this before making > a > decision. Comments appreciated to ietf@xxxxxxxx by 6 August 2012. > > Ray Pelletier > IETF Administrative Director >