> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@xxxxxxxxxx> > With all due respect, that sentence could be improved. Agree with others; splitting it up into two simpler sentences is an improvement. A tweak, though (you lost something in the second sentence): Anything that you write, say, or discuss in the IETF, formally or informally, either at an IETF meeting, or in another IETF venue, such as a mailing list, is an IETF contribution. If any contribution of yours is covered by a patent or patent application made by you or your employer, you or they must disclose that. The original allowed the employer to make the disclosure (since, after all, the employee may not know of all patent filings), and also had a positive requirement to make such a disclosure; this revised one brings all that back. Noel