ok, ok, i put my foot in, so now have to pay Not conforming to the IETF's IPR policy undermines the work of the IETF, and sanctions should be applied against offenders. s/should/may/ 3. Who May Call For and Apply Sanctions Any IETF participant can call for sanctions to be applied to anyone they believe has violated the IETF's IPR policy. participants should not call for sanctions. they should point out to wg chairs, or ADs FACTS about questinable activity, non-disclosure, ... and so forth. i hope that this is not a witch hunt. that it is not creating courts and guillotines. we should assume people want to act in a responsible fashion and provide simple gentle paths to be taken when that assumption fails. randy