On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, SM <sm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Hector, > > [Cc to ietf-owner@xxxxxxxx and list-manager@xxxxxxxx. I note that the > "visible" email address and the email address in the mailto: are different] > > > At 04:35 08-05-2012, Hector Santos wrote: >> >> Thats now two submissions by a subscribed member that are in la la >> land. So its not working. > > > [snip] > > >> IMO, this policy in place for subscribed member mail holding and >> filtering when the mail is never posted, needs to be seriously >> reviewed. The perception amounts to nothing else but deliberate >> censorship, especially when the mail appears to be discarded. > > > I see hsantos@xxxxxxxx as subscribed to ietf@xxxxxxxx. There hasn't been an > announcement, which is required, mentioning that the hsantos@xxxxxxxx email > address is moderated. The message posted around 7 May 2012 23:01:38 -0400 > by hsantos@xxxxxxxx does not show up in the mailing list archive of > ietf@xxxxxxxx. > > The message (4FA84A46.2020407@xxxxxxxx) posted by hsantos@xxxxxxxx around 7 > May 2012 18:18:46 -0400 was handed over to mail.ietf.org around 7 May 2012 > 18:19:23 -0400 and distributed to the mailing list around 7 May 2012 > 18:19:47 -0400 without moderation. > > It is understandable that there is a perception that the mail from the above > email address appears to be discarded or moderated. If the escalation path > is not working to your satisfaction, I suggest contacting the General Area > Director ( gen-ads@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ). > > Regards, > -sm As I mentioned on May 5th, the IETF has a trouble reporting mechanism, action@xxxxxxxx (or ietf-action@xxxxxxxx , they both alias to the same people). Has this been reported there ? Bringing in Russ is not appropriate if the basic reporting process has not been followed. Regards Marshall