RE: Is the IETF aging?

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Hi John,
At 13:39 01-05-2012, John C Klensin wrote:
Speaking as a greybeard who doesn't particularly like the idea
of being culled, an alternative is to try to move such people on
to mentoring/ advisory roles (and the few tasks we have around
that _really_ need many years of experience) rather than
occupying roles that can be performed by others.  That is

The problem is that it can always be argued that many of the tasks around needs many years of experience. That may explain why around 50% of incumbents are returned. It has been said that "service in the IETF's leadership bodies is a short-term contribution to the community, not a career". Here's the incumbent rate at the middle level per area (caution advised as the figures are biased):

 APP  50%
 INT  50%
 RAI   0%
 OPS 50%
 RTG  50%
 SEC  50%
 TSV  67%

actually easily accomplished because it can be done unilaterally
by the older members of the community.  The harder part
--because it does require community and leadership commitment --
is finding ways to make those mentoring/ advisory roles work.

Yes.

Regards,
-sm


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